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CX Education 08: How to improve customer experience with Mike Wittenstein from Storyminers

Join Mike Wittenstein and Heather Share as they dive into the do's and don'ts of creating value for a top-class customer experience
About this episode

The development of technology has brought so many advantages. In fact, thousands of companies use technology every day to reduce sales costs and focus on self-service.

But it's not just about the value of technology to the business; it should always be about what creates value for the customer.

In this episode of CX Education, our host Heather Share welcomes Mike Wittenstein, Founder and Managing Partner at Storyminers. Mike and Heather discuss the importance of customer experience and what customer experience designers do. They talk about using technology to create value, the problem of too many messages, and the benefits of storytelling while creating a different customer experience.

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Guest speaker

Mike Wittenstein’s first professional CX experience was to guide the CX design for McDonald’s digital drive-thru in 1999 while eVisionary at IBM. He earned the 31st CCXP designation and has helped hundreds of companies advance their CX initiatives and increase their ability to deliver value for clients.

A serial innovator, Mike has figured out ways to apply the power of stories to embed CX into operations and cultures. He has worked extensively in Europe, Latin America and speaks English, Portuguese, Spanish, and Russian. Mike’s MBA is from Thunderbird/ASU and he has top certifications in consulting and speaking.
Mike Wittenstein
Managing Partner
Storyminers
Heather Share

Host

Heather Share creates a visual landscape of possibilities for global businesses navigating ever-growing customer needs.

20 years of creating best-fit solutions in the SaaS platform world firmly places Heather as a leader in the space who is ideally positioned to help businesses achieve growth plans for retention, loyalty, and new business.

As a Product Adoption Manager at Sinch, Heather guides clients through emerging channels growing in popularity worldwide and promotes the importance of a conversational strategy.
Heather Share
Product Adoption Manager
Sinch

Key insights

  • A CX designer really cares about customers

    Customer experience is your customers' holistic perception of their experience with your business or brand. It encompasses every aspect of a company's offering — the quality of customer care, advertising, packaging, product and service features, ease of use, and reliability. Customers want you to commit to them, to engage with them, and according to Mike, that's what a customer experience designer does. "They think about the interactions, and they set everyone up for success. They don't just look at the little path of getting the transaction done, or buying the doll, or buying the clothes and trying them on. They think about everything — how people feel; what stories are they going to tell — it goes way deeper than just the surface."

  • You should do things WITH customers instead TO customers

    Today, when everyone spends most of their time on their phones, people are completely cut off from personal experience, which is precious. Mike points out that keeping in touch with customers is important and explains how it makes a difference between companies. "We've become a group of people, and whether we're customers or employees or strategists and designers, we tend to think about doing things 'to people.' Like, 'Let's make the customer do this,' instead of doing things for them. When you do things for them, there's a whole different attitude and posture, feeling, grace, and harmony that happens when you do things with people. You have the opportunity to connect, to build relationships, to share, and to co-create."

  • Use technology for customer value creation

    While technology has enabled companies to improve their business and reduce costs, it can also be used to improve customer experience. As Mike notes, if it's digital, anytime you use it, it can create a record, an indelible footprint, and you can make value for customers. "If we're collecting information when they're online, and then in the store, and then on their phone and through conversation, what if we put all of that together and we were able to meet more of our customers' needs? What value could we create for them? That's that five- or ten-second profit pause that everybody needs to ask to find out how we can help our customers do more of what they want, the way they want to do it. And that might end up helping you find ways to differentiate your brand to make it more story worthy, which means it's such a good experience that people can't wait to tell a story about it."

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The problem with too many messages 

"If you've got a connection with a customer, why don't you replace a push with a pull? Instead of selling and telling, why don't you ask and respond? Make it more conversational; make it more about what they need. Anticipate better; personalize better. But all you have to do, especially if you're a small business, is ask, 'What do you think your needs will be for the next spring season for your outdoor gear?' What are you planning to do? If I clue you in, you don't have to market 90% of the things I don't need. You can give me a few good offers. Your marketing will cost less, your reputation will go up, your conversion rates will improve, and people will appreciate that there's a relationship going on.” 

Build a story to craft a different CX

"A story is the least expensive, fastest, least disruptive, and most doable of all the options when it comes to strategy and changing the way you do your business. Because it doesn't require a commitment; it doesn't require building software; it doesn't require hiring new people or training them; it doesn't require facilities, furniture, advertising campaigns, or anything. It's just sitting around a whiteboard and starting to draw stuff and write it down. It's the cost of this (paper and pencil); this is what it costs to prototype your business when you're using a story, which is why it's so powerful. It's also powerful because it's infinitely flexible." 

Base decisions on the customer's voice 

"If there's one thing that people of any-sized company could do to figure out what's next for them, it would probably be to talk to their customers. The second thing would be to become a customer of their own business, not schmaltzy, like an undercover boss. Yes, the people are real, the good that's done is fabulous, the hope and inspiration are great, and the eyes lighting up for the owner so that they behave differently in the future, it's all good. And if you'll go out into the world and see your business the way your customers do, you will automatically get about 75% of what any consultant can tell you all by yourself. It's just not that hard.” 

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